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Posted by: Yalo Oct 31 2009, 01:30 PM
ive been thinking about this alot; what the fuck would happen if either Brann, Bill, Troy or Brent would die in some way?
would Mastodon still be?
me myself dont think so. theyre all too unique. and thats what makes Mastodon my absolute favourite band.
Posted by: itwasme Oct 31 2009, 02:38 PM
I've always expected it might go the whole Led Zeppelin-type route where if one of them died they'd just disband, but who can say? All I know is the best we can hope for is that none of them die. Lord knows almost all of them have come close in the last few years, but the best thing to do is just remember that if there is a just god in this universe, he would not allow one of the members of Mastodon to die while all nine of the members of Slipknot have remained alive since the 90s. 
Posted by: Koen Oct 31 2009, 02:55 PM
Go see the Making of Crack The Skye.
Mastodon - 1 = no more Mastodon
Posted by: Yalo Oct 31 2009, 05:40 PM
Mastodon - 1 = no more Mastodon
ive seen that. and the scene where Brann almost start crying while talking about Brent's accident is very moving.
so, yea.
Posted by: Koen Oct 31 2009, 06:02 PM
That indeed was.
I love to see how close friends they are. Makes me appreciate the band as a whole even more.
Posted by: magnum3.14 Oct 31 2009, 10:37 PM
I'm not trying to sound crass here, but if one of them died, yea, it would suck, yes. But I mean, what if your mom died? These are things you shouldn't be asking yourself about. Enjoy the living while you have them and don't dwell so much on their death.... Megadeth.... Megaman.... ManBearPig....
Coco-Nut-Banana-Rama-Lamb-A-God-Smack-My-Bitch-Up-Chuck-Norris-Day-and-the-Time-Machine-Gun-Smoky-and-the-band-of-Brother-Where-Art-Thou-Shall-Not-Kill-A-Mocking-Bird-Seed-Of-Chuckie-Finster.
^^^ Is your mind sufficiently blown?
Posted by: Yalo Oct 31 2009, 11:26 PM
what are you on bro?
Posted by: Koen Nov 1 2009, 02:21 AM
Where's that avatar from anyway?
Posted by: Yalo Nov 1 2009, 12:35 PM
mine or his?
Posted by: Koen Nov 1 2009, 12:39 PM
yours
Posted by: Yalo Nov 1 2009, 01:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90t5MFHtiE
Posted by: Koen Nov 1 2009, 06:26 PM
Looks funny, too bad my Swedish ain't as good as yours.
Posted by: richasaurus Nov 1 2009, 06:27 PM
It's not the least bit funny
Posted by: Yalo Nov 1 2009, 06:38 PM
Posted by: Rattrameggeagoth Nov 3 2009, 10:50 AM
Coco-Nut-Banana-Rama-Lamb-A-God-Smack-My-Bitch-Up-Chuck-Norris-Day-and-the-Time-Machine-Gun-Smoky-and-the-band-of-Brother-Where-Art-Thou-Shall-Not-Kill-A-Mocking-Bird-Seed-Of-Chuckie-Finster.
^^^ Is your mind sufficiently blown?
This is the mastoboard, not the mom-board.
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 3 2009, 05:16 PM
Water board?
Posted by: Vulva Nov 3 2009, 11:48 PM
meh
worked fine without bill. hes the replacable one
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 3 2009, 11:54 PM
worked fine without bill. hes the replacable one
Bill is the tightening element to Mastodon. He's the lubricant that keeps it all moving smoothly.
Take him out of the equation and Mastodon sounds sloppy as fuck.
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 4 2009, 12:18 AM
worked fine without bill. hes the replacable one
Sure they can play without him, but what would they do if they didn't have the riffs he makes? That dude makes some damn good riffs. Just cause Brent can play his parts while he's gone doesn't mean he can write them too
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 4 2009, 12:25 AM
True.
And to elaborate further on my previous point... To me, the dynamic of Mastodon comes from their radically different playing styles. In my opinion, Mastodon is like one band that's made of two smaller bands. Brann and Bill are the lazer guided portion of Mastodon. Everything they do is very calculated and super tight (Lethargy obviously comes to mind). Brent and Troy are very loose and laid back in what they do. They're the main contributors to that organic flow that Mastodon is known for. You put those four together and you've got quite the sonic experience!
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 4 2009, 12:51 AM
Well put Magnum! I never thought of it that way, but it's true. Brann and Bill with their technical background, Brent with his country/classic rock background, and Troy with his ability to make smooth, melodic awesome basslines culminates into something that is out of the norm, and awesome. It makes me wonder though, if one was to pass and they were to get a replacement who comes from another sort of background, what would it sound like? It might actually work out, but I wouldn't want it to actually be Mastodon. I think it should be different.
Lately I've had this thought of what it would be like if Matt Pike was in Mastodon. I would love that. I wouldn't want him to replace anyone, but to sort of like collaborate with them. That would be some insanely heavy, riff oriented shit.
Posted by: Madden Nov 4 2009, 02:17 AM
I think Mastodon need to expand, BIG TIME.
They need a string section, at least 2 guys on keys, a brass section. Someone on a theremin, too. And a selection of percussive instruments. Timpani, djembe, tabla. That'd be fucking sweet. Oh, and three more guitarists. And an octobass.
Posted by: radu123 Nov 4 2009, 04:55 AM
with no disrespect to his holiness bill "billybob" kelliher, what awesome riffs do you know for a fact that he has written? i know he wrote the opening riff for cysquatch, and the opening riff of ghost of karelia, but other than that...?
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 4 2009, 05:12 AM
I remember hearing him say in an interview or something that a lot of their heavier riffs and a lot of remission was from him. Also, the rhythm under that hybrid picked part of the verse from quintessence and some parts of the song Crack The Skye. I'm sure there is more. I'm guessing the weird riffs under the crazy part of Capillarian Crest are his doing too. Around 1:35 on.
Posted by: radu123 Nov 4 2009, 06:48 AM
sorry, but in a conversation about "damn good riffs" and the song capillarian crest, the riff under brent's crazy shitstorm has no place in the discussion
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 4 2009, 06:52 AM
WHy is that?
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 4 2009, 09:25 AM
He wrote the main verse riff for Blood and Thunder.
He wrote the guitar lead on Sleeping Giant.
He wrote almost all of Hunter of the Sky.
He wrote the verse riff from Hand of Stone.
Posted by: Orthrus Nov 4 2009, 10:52 AM
He wrote the guitar lead on Sleeping Giant.
He wrote almost all of Hunter of the Sky.
He wrote the verse riff from Hand of Stone.
Some even say he wrote the bible.
And some people, who might question the existence of one William Shakespeare actually assert that Bill wrote Romeo and Juliet.
Stay tuned for more drama as "what if one of the titans would be lost" returns after this commercial break.
Posted by: Vulva Nov 4 2009, 10:53 AM
brann
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 4 2009, 10:59 AM
I think you're thinking of Crystal Skull.
Posted by: radu123 Nov 4 2009, 02:15 PM
He wrote the verse riff from Hand of Stone.
cool songs, but easily blood mountain's weakest two
look, i love bill "billy the kid" kelliher, and since he's grown the tache that love has only increased exponentially and turned into an unhealthy obsession, but if we're being cocks and talking about who the most expendable member of the band is, with the current evidence you'd have to go with bill "wild turkey" kelliher
maybe it's insulting to the band to even have this debate, to even think of a member as potentially expendable, but you have to leave the fanboyism at the door at some point magnumthreepointonefour. after all, you once said something along the lines of 'i like it when brent plays his solos sloppy, it characterises the desperate, confused nature of the protagonist in the songs'
now let's all admire this picture, from the good old days before brent left the band to form a christian rap group, while the three remaining members sold out and secured a deal for the animated series 'saturday morning sleeping giant'
MASTODON IS:
brent hinds: lead guitar, meows, strobe light operator
bill kelliher: rhythm guitar, pedalboard, roars on march of the fire ants
brann dailor: drums, percussion, triangle
troy sanders: bass, vocals, aggressive youtube promotional campaign
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 4 2009, 02:28 PM
look, i love bill "billy the kid" kelliher, and since he's grown the tache that love has only increased exponentially and turned into an unhealthy obsession, but if we're being cocks and talking about who the most expendable member of the band is, with the current evidence you'd have to go with bill "wild turkey" kelliher
maybe it's insulting to the band to even have this debate, to even think of a member as potentially expendable, but you have to leave the fanboyism at the door at some point magnumthreepointonefour. after all, you once said something along the lines of 'i like it when brent plays his solos sloppy, it characterises the desperate, confused nature of the protagonist in the songs'
now let's all admire this picture, from the good old days before brent left the band to form a christian rap group, while the three remaining members sold out and secured a deal for the animated series 'saturday morning mastodon'
MASTODON IS:
brent hinds: lead guitar, meows, strobe light operator
bill kelliher: rhythm guitar, pedalboard, roars on march of the fire ants
brann dailor: drums, percussion, triangle
troy sanders: bass, vocals, aggressive youtube promotional campaign
You are a without a shadow of a doubt, the most idiotic person on this board. No, I digress... You are a complete and total moron. And for the life of me I don't know why I'm dignifying yhor stupid contrived piece of bullshit post with a semi-concerned response... Are you really stupid or are you just playing around? I can't tell because you just aren't funny. You're not even clever for that matter.... But your efforts are cute.
I look forward to being thrilled by your next compelling post.
Posted by: radu123 Nov 4 2009, 02:58 PM
Herr Magnum, in your learned opinion, if each member were an item from Taco Bell what would they be, and why?
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 4 2009, 03:08 PM
Posted by: Rattrameggeagoth Nov 4 2009, 07:43 PM
Faggot. Hand of Stone is better than Crystal Skull, The Wolf is Loose, Birchmen, Pendulous Skin and Bladecatcher.
Posted by: bakers man Nov 4 2009, 08:11 PM
hunters of the sky and hand of stone are my favorite blood mountain songs.
Posted by: Vulva Nov 6 2009, 06:38 AM
i wasnt referring to when they performed as a three piece without bill, i was referring to when they had some random dude replace him while he went and had a kid
if you listened to a recording of any of those gigs you wouldnt be able to tell the difference. whereas had it been brent, brann or troy that was missing and replaced, you wouldve been able to tell straight away. also as stated he hasnt had a very big hand in the songwriting neither, especially not as of late
hence: bill is the replacable one, meaning he's the only one they could replace without anyone noticing and without any decline in quality
Posted by: zombies & sunshine Nov 6 2009, 08:49 AM
this entire argument is fucking pathetic. if one of the guys actually died, or quit, the band would be done. they're friends. they want to play and write together, if one of them was actually gone, mastodon would be done. end of story.
Posted by: radu123 Nov 6 2009, 10:30 AM
tut tut @ ragga magga and bakers man
Posted by: Vulva Nov 6 2009, 02:20 PM
hubba hubba zoot zoot
bumlingar och gnejs!
Posted by: richasaurus Nov 6 2009, 10:28 PM
despite the amount of epic faggots we have and have had on this board it's not until topics like these that I am truely ashamed to be part of this community
Posted by: radu123 Nov 7 2009, 01:41 AM
oh you poor thing
you should write a memoir recounting your difficult experiences, after which you-know-who can kiss your salty tears away
Posted by: richasaurus Nov 7 2009, 10:02 AM
Look at you trying to assert yourself
Posted by: BigJon Nov 7 2009, 10:12 AM
...Someone on a theremin, too.
Posted by: HERP DERP Nov 7 2009, 11:47 AM
This threads disgusting. It's like commenting on someone's family and saying 'oh, they wouldn't be bothered if we killed his dad'.
Delete it.
Posted by: Koen Nov 7 2009, 01:12 PM
Delete it.
Agreed.
The comment about Bill being replacable made me pretty angry. Bill is as much Mastodon as all the others and nobody can replace him.
Posted by: Orthrus Nov 7 2009, 02:38 PM
The comment about Bill being replacable made me pretty angry. Bill is as much Mastodon as all the others and nobody can replace him.
... and he has the biggest penis.
Posted by: Yalo Nov 7 2009, 02:43 PM
the original purpose of this thread was not to come up with who's 'replacable', but what would happen to Mastodon if one of the guys would be lost.
Posted by: Orthrus Nov 7 2009, 02:49 PM
the original purpose of you was not to come up with these shitty threads, but what would happen if you threw a gay jerk into a masculine, hungry mastoboard.
And here's the result.
Posted by: Yalo Nov 7 2009, 02:52 PM
be nice robert
Posted by: PowerSlave Nov 7 2009, 03:59 PM
Man, what the fuck is with you dick heads saying Bill is replaceable? He isn't. Nobody in the band is.
Posted by: Whimpers Nov 7 2009, 05:40 PM
+1.
This thread sucks.
Posted by: Vulva Nov 8 2009, 08:05 AM
bill was replaced for a while and you know what? it was just fine. could you say the same if brent, troy or brann were replaced? no
end of discussion
yeah totally the same thing. you twat
Posted by: richasaurus Nov 8 2009, 09:03 AM
we saw it the first time you wrote it
Posted by: Vulva Nov 8 2009, 03:34 PM
i doubt it
Posted by: xWhalexCorex Nov 8 2009, 05:49 PM
worked fine without bill. hes the replacable one
Just throwing this out there but Bill is probably the reason I love Mastodon. If it wasn't for his mastery of the heavy stuff I'm sure we'd have a Masto-Lite. Look at it this way:
Bill = Remission
Troy = Leviathan
Brent = Blood Mountain
Brann = Crack The Skye
Each one of them has their own album, Bill's style is much more prominent on Remission, Troy's on Leviathan etc. Now I don't know about you but Remission is still the most passionate out of all of them. Brent may be a damn good player but he's not a riff-master. Bill is to Mastodon as Pi Mei is to Beatrix Kiddo from Kill Bill, it's his hand and he wants it strong.
Posted by: Yalo Nov 8 2009, 05:50 PM
Each one of them has their own album, Bill's style is much more prominent on Remission, Troy's on Leviathan etc. Now I don't know about you but Remission is still the most passionate out of all of them. Brent may be a damn good player but he's not a riff-master. Bill is to Mastodon as Pi Mei is to Beatrix Kiddo from Kill Bill, it's his hand and he wants it strong.
fuckin nailed it
Posted by: bakers man Nov 8 2009, 06:46 PM
Troy = Leviathan
Brent = Blood Mountain
Brann = Crack The Skye
what are you talking about? they all worked on those albums. your looking into this way tooo fucking much. i know bill likes heavy music but what you are saying is just dumb and too generalized.
Posted by: Yalo Nov 8 2009, 07:21 PM
very true.
and really, you should know that Brent wrote most of Crack The Skye, atleast came up with the concept.
Posted by: xWhalexCorex Nov 8 2009, 08:22 PM
and really, you should know that Brent wrote most of Crack The Skye, atleast came up with the concept.
True but I think each album represents their style more, I'm not saying they did the most work on it or any of that but I AM saying that each album caters to one members style over the others.
Posted by: Orthrus Nov 8 2009, 09:20 PM
I think the only one worthy a great solo career would be Brent.
The way I feel, if someone would drop out It'd be him.
This shit about Bill being replaceable is bullshit. They're not Mastodon because 4 guys wanted to be rockstars, they're Mastodon because the chemistry between them is so special.
Oh look old Orthrus is getting all sentimental.
Posted by: Vulva Nov 8 2009, 09:25 PM
Troy = Leviathan
Brent = Blood Mountain
Brann = Crack The Skye
you just completely made that up
Posted by: xWhalexCorex Nov 8 2009, 09:48 PM
No not really. Remission has Bill's style of heavier chug at the forefront while Leviathan has Troy's Neurosis-worship manner of song writting and lyrics at the helm. Blood Mountain is the perfect mix of Brent's love of monsters, prog and metal while Crack The Skye (While being written by Brent) definantly is Brann's album mainly due to the fact that it has such sentimental value and it showcases his hard on for Yes/Rush style drumming. Now I'm not saying any of this is an absolute truth, it's just an observation that I myself have come upon.
Posted by: HASHTHRASH Nov 8 2009, 10:08 PM
end of discussion
NOT the end of the discussion at all. Your statement shows that you, like most people, have no knowledge of the inner workings and relationships within the band.
Posted by: bakers man Nov 8 2009, 10:10 PM
exactly. how do we know any of the mastodon guys styles?? they havent made any solo albums. all your judging them is by shitty interviews.
Posted by: HASHTHRASH Nov 8 2009, 10:12 PM
Bill = Remission
Troy = Leviathan
Brent = Blood Mountain
Brann = Crack The Skye
Each one of them has their own album, Bill's style is much more prominent on Remission, Troy's on Leviathan etc. Now I don't know about you but Remission is still the most passionate out of all of them. Brent may be a damn good player but he's not a riff-master. Bill is to Mastodon as Pi Mei is to Beatrix Kiddo from Kill Bill, it's his hand and he wants it strong.
Just to let you know, you are quite wrong in your "breakdown".
Posted by: HASHTHRASH Nov 8 2009, 10:15 PM
Maybe you think you see it, but it is purely the product of your own imagination.
Posted by: xWhalexCorex Nov 8 2009, 10:19 PM
I kind of just said that, I didn't expect anyone to agree; it's just what I see. But if you want to jump to conclusions go right ahead.
Posted by: Yalo Nov 8 2009, 10:28 PM
in that case i'd say:
Remission - Bill
Leviathan - Troy
Blood Mountain - Brann
Crack The Skye - Brent
Posted by: HASHTHRASH Nov 8 2009, 10:43 PM
If we're just making shit up as we go along then I think this:
Remission - Stacy Keach
Leviathan - Tommy Chong
Blood Mountain - Cheech Marin
Crack The Skye - Paul Reubens
Posted by: Yalo Nov 8 2009, 10:46 PM
Remission - Queequeg
Leviathan - Chuck Norris
Blood Mountain - Crack The Skye
Crack The Skye - 4chan
Posted by: xWhalexCorex Nov 8 2009, 10:51 PM
Remission - Slayer
Leviathan - Slayer
Blood Mountain - Slayer
Crack The Slayer - Bruce Lee
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 8 2009, 11:39 PM
Remission - James
Leviathan - Cliff
Blood Mountain - Dave Mustaine
Crack The Skye - Lars
Posted by: PowerSlave Nov 9 2009, 03:12 AM
Wow.
Posted by: Astro Zombie Nov 9 2009, 03:54 AM
Remission - Pineapple
Leviathan - Water Buffalo
Blood Mountain - EMOS
Crack the Skye - Devin Townsend + Gene Hoglan
Posted by: HASHTHRASH Nov 9 2009, 04:02 AM
yup, this joke is done being funny now
Posted by: Astro Zombie Nov 9 2009, 04:18 AM
I had my way with it and killed it, of course it is.
Posted by: Yalo Nov 9 2009, 09:01 AM
talking about not being funny anymore, the avatar of your's just gay
...and so is mine.
Posted by: Madden Nov 13 2009, 07:02 PM
Mastodon will live forever, unless they fuck with Mr Jankins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_6JjB3-XN0
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 13 2009, 11:20 PM
I noticed we only look at this from one side, the "what if one died" side. That resulted in a shitstorm. But what if one of them just decides to leave the band? What if somehow one of them just decides they don't like making music anymore, or hate all the traveling, or want to persue another career or anything? I can understand breaking up if a member dies, but what if one just leaves? Do they break up or find a replacement?
Posted by: bakers man Nov 14 2009, 12:00 AM
yeah i dont see that happening. ^^^^
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 14 2009, 12:16 AM
That's not the point, that's why I said IF
Posted by: magnum3.14 Nov 14 2009, 12:22 AM
IF you only had a brain
Posted by: DamageInc Nov 14 2009, 12:43 AM
...
Posted by: Madden Nov 14 2009, 09:06 PM
You dont kick your own ass for years to get yourself where you want to be, get there for a second then say I want to get off. You ride it as long as you can, until you're too old to be taken seriously. Look at Iron Maiden. They wont stop until they are all in the ground.
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