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RationalGaze
I don't understand why Mastodon lets Brent do vocals on so many songs, his voice is so nasal! He actually makes me embarassed to play some Mastodon songs if other people can hear it. He always reminds me of a cat, like, that's what a cat-man would sound like, especially if you hear him live, his voice is just awful. I think he is a total legend, and really cool guy, but his voice is always the only weak part of any Mastodon song, IMO.

I was really disheartened the first time I heard him singing since I was so used to Troy's epic vocals. The first Masto album I heard was Remission (probably still my favourite) and it was just epic, the vocals and instruments were a perfect match. Then I got Leviathan and I heard Blood and Thunder...awesome...I Am Ahab...awesome, then Seabeast...WTF? Who was this this guy singing with nose plugs??? Fortunately Troy delivered some of his most epic lines which just come out of nowhere and make this one of my favourite Mastodon songs ever. Then later on we have Naked Burn which is just Brent at his most nasal. I was really hoping those were going to be Brent's only appearances, but it seems he has replaced Troy as the main vocalist from Blood Mountain till now. I think this is a real pity and I don't undestand why the band has made this decision. I think Troy has got a great singing voice, along with his cool shouting voice. I think the vocals on BM are what has made it my least favourite Mastodon album. I hardly ever listen to it, and actually wouldn't mind never listening to it again TBH. CTS is great though, since Troy has a good presence on it (his parts always elevate the song, best example on CTS is Quintessence - Brent has the whiny verses and Troy has the booming chorus and the low as fuck "Shield failuuurrrrrre" parts, freakin sweet).

Sorry for the long post/rant but I had to get this off my chest. Someone out there has to agree with me.

(Mastodon is still an awesome band and CTS is my most listened to album at the mo, but I really think they bring down their songs when they let Brent do the vocals.)
March of the mastodon
There are some songs were his vocals is amazing and some were he sounds a little nasal as you said. In my opinion he did a great job on CTS were he does most of the vocals, but some stuf on leviathan sounds not so great like Seabeast. The screams on Blood Mountain and Remission are pretty sweet though cool.gif
deftone82
now did you really register on this board to wine about Brent's voice?

you're dedicated man!
RationalGaze
QUOTE (deftone82 @ Jul 24 2009, 01:45 PM) *
now did you really register on this board to wine about Brent's voice?

you're dedicated man!


Haha, I won't lie, it was a driving force. I had to get it out...it was like a splinter in my mind, driving me mad.
Pendulous Cock
Anyone else hate this thread?
RationalGaze
QUOTE (Pendulous Cock @ Jul 24 2009, 01:52 PM) *
Anyone else hate this thread?


Anyone else hate trolls?
Pendulous Cock
I mean its cool if you felt the need to bitch about Brent, awesome for getting that off your chest but the fact remains Brent has delivered some of the most immense passages over the years and will continue to do so. So in short what i am saying is this...fuck you.
Orthrus
QUOTE (RationalGaze @ Jul 24 2009, 03:01 PM) *
Anyone else hate trolls?


Hey dickhead, you're obviously a troll yourself.

I'd guess your magnum3.14, someone from the Lamb of God board or just a looser with too much time to spend.

RationalGaze
Fucking hell, is Brent your mom or something? The topic of the post is clearly whether you dislike Brent's voice or not. I don't see how this can be considered trolling. I was expecting to read replies along the line of "Yes, I agree." or "No I think his voice is great." and instead I get a couple of cunts saying fuck you or calling me a dickhead.
Orthrus
QUOTE (RationalGaze @ Jul 24 2009, 03:11 PM) *
Fucking hell, is Brent your mom or something? The topic of the post is clearly whether you dislike Brent's voice or not. I don't see how this can be considered trolling. I was expecting to read replies along the line of "Yes, I agree." or "No I think his voice is great." and instead I get a couple of cunts saying fuck you or calling me a dickhead.



You have a problem with taking things seriously, eh?
Colonel Sweeto
Although his live voice ain't top notch, he's fucking great on their record. ESPECIALLY Seabeast.

So no, I do not agree.
Orthrus


Hey you guys seen the new BRÜNO movie`?
HASHTHRASH
Oh boy, here you guys go again. I also agree that Brent isn't a great vocalist, and it's waaaaaay nasal sounding. I don't hate it, I have a nasal accent that comes with being from Rochester, but I can see where others would. I also think Troy should do more vocals, he has gotten better every album and he is more consistent live.
Pendulous Cock
Brent's live voice during the Remission Era was fucking superb and epic, then of course the throat infection fucked his shit up.
RationalGaze
I read something about his throat infection before and I assumed it was just some temporary thing like flu. Did it actually do permanent damage to his voice?
Pendulous Cock
I think it did because his screams and stuff sounded all pre historic and shit.
zenebu
His vocals are much better now, especially live. I also prefer Troy's vocals but got nothing against Brent's ones
Pazki
QUOTE (zenebu @ Jul 24 2009, 02:48 PM) *
His vocals are much better now, especially live.

Nope. Saw 'em a week ago.
Yalo
a pal told me brent pwned at sonisphere.
zenebu
QUOTE (Pazki @ Jul 24 2009, 02:55 PM) *
Nope. Saw 'em a week ago.


Saw them 2 weeks ago and listened to a few gigs out there and it sounded better, but ok.
Pazki
I wouldn't say much better but yeah, better than download.
zenebu
yeah yeah, that was my point. I'm not saying it's perfect, but that it's improving
Orthrus
QUOTE (Pazki @ Jul 24 2009, 04:08 PM) *
I wouldn't say much better but yeah, better than download.


Hey what's your problem anyway, dickhead?
Pendulous Cock
QUOTE (Pazki @ Jul 24 2009, 03:08 PM) *
I wouldn't say much better but yeah, better than download.


I like the old avatar.. just sayin'.
Orthrus
QUOTE (Pendulous Cock @ Jul 24 2009, 04:24 PM) *
I like the old avatar.. just sayin'.


Seconded.

That pazki guy is obviously a poser.
zenebu
Johnny Drama?
Orthrus
QUOTE (zenebu @ Jul 24 2009, 04:30 PM) *
Johnny Drama?


Pyjamas?
Pazki
QUOTE (Pendulous Cock @ Jul 24 2009, 03:24 PM) *
I like the old avatar.. just sayin'.

Yeah, me too. I'll see what I can do.

And oh yeah, Orthrus... I know you love to smoke monkeypole.
Koen
QUOTE (RationalGaze @ Jul 24 2009, 01:11 PM) *
Fucking hell, is Brent your mom or something? The topic of the post is clearly whether you dislike Brent's voice or not. I don't see how this can be considered trolling. I was expecting to read replies along the line of "Yes, I agree." or "No I think his voice is great." and instead I get a couple of cunts saying fuck you or calling me a dickhead.


This is the Mastodon forum. It's how people communicate here. If you can't take that you are indeed taking it a little too serious.
Im Not Ahab
I like Brent's vocals. Since when is rock and roll perfect?
pelliottnthunder
QUOTE (Im Not Ahab @ Jul 24 2009, 11:50 AM) *
Since when is rock and roll perfect?

Ever since Chuck Berry started doing the Duck Walk.
Orthrus
QUOTE (pelliottnthunder @ Jul 24 2009, 05:58 PM) *
Ever since Chuck Berry started doing the Duck Walk.


And Brann doing the tuck.
radu123
i really enjoy his singing / screaming on a lot of tracks (won't list the other two records, you can't really tell who's who)

BM = sleeping giant, circle of cysquatch, siberian divide
CTS = oblivion, the czar (particularly that 'i see your face in constellations' part), the last baron
Leviathan = island, megalodon, aqua dementia, hearts alive

i think his vocals on all the leviathan tracks i listed really kick the anus, but his megalodon part is probably my favourite mastodon sing-along. it's really a shame his voice sucks live.

as for the throat infection, i don't know the details of brent's problem, but james labrie of dream theater suffered rupturing of his vocals chords in the mid-90s due to food poisoning, and that really really really fucked him over. like to an almost tragic extent.

he was so fucking good on images and words and awake (some of the best singing i've ever heard), but post-incident whilst he still pulls off cool stuff in the studio, live is 95% of the time nothing but trash

ps

QUOTE (Pazki @ Jul 25 2009, 12:08 AM) *
I wouldn't say much better but yeah, better than download.


i wish that statement wasn't such a nothing, you couldn't really get any worse than download
Astro Zombie
I hate everything and feel the need to post in on the internet and rag out anyone whose opinion varies from mine.
SleePY GiaNT
Anyone else love Brent's voice? Mastodon would suck without it.
MastoFred
QUOTE (RationalGaze @ Jul 24 2009, 02:11 PM) *
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I hear you man.

On Leviathan and some Blood Mountain parts I feel Troy or maybe even Brann should've done some lyrics !!

I love how Brann sings on Oblivion, in fact probably the best singing we've ever gotten from Mastodon hails from that song, and I think he'd done a better job taking care of the vocal duties !!

I've never seen Mastodon live, mostly because I'm too young but I've seen live videos and I feel Brent ain't singing as good as he should !!

It's a real shame. I would love to hear how for an example Serj Tankian from SOAD would sound singing for Mastodon. I've always thought about that !!
thed00dman
QUOTE (SleePY GiaNT @ Jul 24 2009, 12:47 PM) *
Anyone else love Brent's voice? Mastodon would suck without it.


Agreed, they're perfect for the parts he sings, especially in The Last Baron.
xWhalexCorex
QUOTE (MastoFred @ Jul 24 2009, 06:54 PM) *
I hear you man.

On Leviathan and some Blood Mountain parts I feel Troy or maybe even Brann should've done some lyrics !!

I love how Brann sings on Oblivion, in fact probably the best singing we've ever gotten from Mastodon hails from that song, and I think he'd done a better job taking care of the vocal duties !!

I've never seen Mastodon live, mostly because I'm too young but I've seen live videos and I feel Brent ain't singing as good as he should !!

It's a real shame. I would love to hear how for an example Serj Tankian from SOAD would sound singing for Mastodon. I've always thought about that !!


Except that SOAD is for pseudo-politcal rebellious middle schoolers. Also:


Metal Bitches!
Gana
QUOTE (MastoFred @ Jul 24 2009, 06:54 PM) *
I would love to hear how for an example Serj Tankian from SOAD would sound singing for Mastodon. I've always thought about that !!


Don't even joke about it dude, fuck.
mastojohn
QUOTE (RationalGaze @ Jul 24 2009, 01:11 PM) *
I don't understand why Mastodon lets Brent do vocals on so many songs, his voice is so nasal! He actually makes me embarassed to play some Mastodon songs if other people can hear it. He always reminds me of a cat, like, that's what a cat-man would sound like, especially if you hear him live, his voice is just awful. I think he is a total legend, and really cool guy, but his voice is always the only weak part of any Mastodon song, IMO.

I was really disheartened the first time I heard him singing since I was so used to Troy's epic vocals. The first Masto album I heard was Remission (probably still my favourite) and it was just epic, the vocals and instruments were a perfect match. Then I got Leviathan and I heard Blood and Thunder...awesome...I Am Ahab...awesome, then Seabeast...WTF? Who was this this guy singing with nose plugs??? Fortunately Troy delivered some of his most epic lines which just come out of nowhere and make this one of my favourite Mastodon songs ever. Then later on we have Naked Burn which is just Brent at his most nasal. I was really hoping those were going to be Brent's only appearances, but it seems he has replaced Troy as the main vocalist from Blood Mountain till now. I think this is a real pity and I don't undestand why the band has made this decision. I think Troy has got a great singing voice, along with his cool shouting voice. I think the vocals on BM are what has made it my least favourite Mastodon album. I hardly ever listen to it, and actually wouldn't mind never listening to it again TBH. CTS is great though, since Troy has a good presence on it (his parts always elevate the song, best example on CTS is Quintessence - Brent has the whiny verses and Troy has the booming chorus and the low as fuck "Shield failuuurrrrrre" parts, freakin sweet).

Sorry for the long post/rant but I had to get this off my chest. Someone out there has to agree with me.

(Mastodon is still an awesome band and CTS is my most listened to album at the mo, but I really think they bring down their songs when they let Brent do the vocals.)



QUOTE (MastoFred @ Jul 24 2009, 06:54 PM) *
It's a real shame. I would love to hear how for an example Serj Tankian from SOAD would sound singing for Mastodon. I've always thought about that !!



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Tw1ster
Record wise, Brent's vocals are great. Some live videos he can stik it up. All that I care about is how he sounded when I saw them live this past April and he was on his A game so you won't hear any complaints from me. I still listen to CTS daily in my car or on my pc and his vocals in The Czar are still my highlights of the album.

I think maybe it's a bit harder with his chicken pickin' style too be able too do both singing and playing the guitar at the same time.
Shortyz
QUOTE (xWhalexCorex @ Jul 24 2009, 11:19 AM) *
Except that SOAD is for pseudo-politcal rebellious middle schoolers. Also:


Metal Bitches!

System of a Down kicks ass.

Fuck you for calling them "SOAD".

Serj Tankian singing for Mastodon is a very bad idea.

Daron is a better singer than Serj anyway.
pelliottnthunder
QUOTE (Shortyz @ Jul 26 2009, 08:14 PM) *
Daron is a better singer than Serj anyway.

Daron killed System for me. He cannot sing.
Pendulous Cock
Serj eats that little fag Daron.
zombies & sunshine
listening to system tonight at work, i got about two songs in to the hypnotize/mesmerize combo and shut it off, daron completely destroyed system of a down with his idiotic drug-addict LA tryhard bullshit. Serj's album, while being infinitely better than Scars on Broadway, was still lacking. daron needs to have some huge accident and lose his vocal chords, then he could crawl back to serj and write kickass guitar shit for serj to ramble over.
radu123
QUOTE (zombies & sunshine @ Jul 27 2009, 04:18 PM) *
daron needs to have some huge accident and lose his vocal chords, then he could crawl back to serj and write kickass guitar shit for serj to ramble over.


maybe i'm just in an unusually good mood lately, but i lol'd for ages
Pazki
QUOTE (Shortyz @ Jul 27 2009, 01:14 AM) *
System of a Down kicks ass.

Fuck you for calling them "SOAD".

Serj Tankian singing for Mastodon is a very bad idea.

Daron is a better singer than Serj anyway.

You really know how to ruin everything for yourself, huh?

System kicks ass = Gay.

Fuck you for SOAD = Gay.

Serj singing for masto, bad = Captain Obvious

Daron better than Serj = Totally Gay. Daron cannot play nor sing.
radu123
soad kick ass, 'nuff said
Pazki
QUOTE (radu123 @ Jul 27 2009, 12:07 PM) *
soad kick ass, 'nuff said

Kicked
MastoFred
QUOTE (radu123 @ Jul 27 2009, 02:07 PM) *
soad kick ass, 'nuff said


Amen brother !!

Hard to find musicians that are more creative than these guys !!

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